Indentify Heckel, please.

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Indentify Heckel, please.

Post by Ouscazz » 22 Mar 2009, 16:30

I've recently purchased this group of 13 young Heckel and the importer/seller claimed the were caught in what he said "Rio Nivi".. I've never heard of the place/river and I'm not able to find any info on the internet.

Mr. Bleher, if it's not to much to ask.. can you please identify the species, age and possible place of capture, thank you very much.


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Re: Indentify Heckel, please.

Post by Heiko Bleher » 26 Mar 2009, 12:08

Hi,

sorry for the late answer. Ver nice Heckel discus - BUT PLEASE give them fine white sand - that they need.

These are definitely from the Rio Marimari system, you can see them also in my book on page 177, immediately after collecting (therefore the over-all colour in my book is somewhat darker, but the stripes and pattern is typical).

best regards and keep up the good work (by adding fine sand... and some shade).

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Post by Ouscazz » 26 Mar 2009, 13:04

Thanks a lot Mr Bleher! :tumme2:

Photos are from the dealers tank, I wouldn't dream of having pebbles in my tanks.

The information you provided is very important for my tank set-up, now I know that it's not going to be a Rio Negro blackwater tank. The Rio Madeira (Marimari) system is, from what I know, a whitewater stream with slightly higher pH than the Rio Negro system. This is indeed essential info for the wellbeing of my heckels.

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Post by Matte_g » 26 Mar 2009, 18:56

I found some Mari mari discus pictures for you!!

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Re: Indentify Heckel, please.

Post by Heiko Bleher » 27 Mar 2009, 12:04

Hi Ouscazz,

I really wonder (or better: must wonder), that there are still people around believing that there are discus found in the muddy waters of the Rio Madeira...This is a Degen/Goebel/Glaser invention because they never went there. There is no such thing... You should really look and read my book to understand wilds (at least)...

The Rio Marimari is an affluent of the Rio Abacaxís which again drains into the Urariá. No connection to the Madeira,

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Re: Indentify Heckel, please.

Post by Ouscazz » 30 Mar 2009, 09:48

Heiko Bleher wrote: You should really look and read my book to understand wilds (at least)...
Oh, really? :confus1:
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Re: Indentify Heckel, please.

Post by Heiko Bleher » 03 Apr 2009, 17:52

Hi,

yes really !!!

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Re: Indentify Heckel, please.

Post by Lennart_L » 03 Apr 2009, 18:20

The book is second best, but it won't get you dehydrated, overheated and eaten by mosquitos ;)
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Re: Indentify Heckel, please.

Post by Heiko Bleher » 16 Jun 2009, 19:57

Hi guys,

I just back from Australia colelcting and lecturing and I do not know where my below information fits into this forum, so I place it herte for the time beinf:

I wanted to let you all know, the biggest event on Discus and Angelfish Championshipsthis year will take place in beautiful Ceska Lipa, a small old town near Prag, Czech Republic, from September 3-6. The forms to participate and/or register, information about this unique championship and the the nice (cheap) Hotel will be up on our http://www.aquapress-bleher.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; website in a couple of days.

No one of you all should miss this event. There will also be a Labyrinth championships and great lectures & seminars, also on P. altum.

Let me know if you have any question open...

always

Heiko Bleher

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